February 4, 2021 — As Switzerland prepares to hold a referendum on the Comprehensive Economic Partnership Agreement (CEPA) between the EFTA States and Indonesia, Shinta Widjaja Kamdani, owner and chief executive officer of the Sintesa Group, and Dr. Dino Patti Djalal, former Indonesian deputy foreign minister and founder of the Foreign Policy Community of Indonesia, take a closer look at the diverse archipelago nation. The conversation was moderated and co-hosted by Mark Dittli, editor of The Market NZZ. (47 min., 58 sec.)