Friedman: We Envy China's 'Reaganism'

New York Times pundit frustrated with America's current direction

In New York on Jan. 10, 2011, Thomas Friedman asks whether the US, compared with China, has lost its "can-do" spirit in the early 21st century. (3 min., 34 sec.)

New York Times pundit frustrated with America's current direction

NEW YORK, January 11, 2011 - China is succeeding because it is doing what America used to do, argues Thomas Friedman.

"I don't know that much about China," the New York Times columnist told a sold-out audience at Asia Society.

"What I'm really thinking about is my country and what we envy in China today, maybe unrealistically.

"It is not their Maoism, but their Reaganism. What we envy is not their communism, but their capitalism. What we envy is not their forced labor — the hard labor of their political prisoners, Lord knows — but the harder labor of people just trying to build a different future."

Friedman, who is currently on book leave from his post as bi-weekly columnist, was joined in conversation by Orville Schell, Arthur Ross Director of the Center on US-China Relations at Asia Society.

Friedman cited the lack of good leadership in America as one of the main factors holding it back. He reserved especially harsh words for former President George W. Bush.

"You need leaders at catalytic moments," Friedman said. "We had ours. It was 9/11. And, our president blew it. He told us to go shopping."

Friedman also accused current Representative Michele Bachmann (R-MN) of deliberately spreading the false rumor that President Obama's recent trip to India cost $1 billion per day. "She peddled a lie that she made no effort whatsoever to check, and yet she's on Fox every week because she's out there. She's extreme. She's one of the noisemakers, and so she gets rewarded," Friedman said. "If we vote for her — if we give her money — then we deserve what we get. And we are gonna get it."

Friedman also criticized the Obama administration for failing to focus on education, which he argued was the real national security issue facing the US. "[Secretary of Education] Arnie Duncan — these guys are wonderful, smart, incredibly dynamic — if he were sitting in the first row here, I bet there aren't three people in this audience who could identify him. That's a huge failure of this administration, and a huge under-leveraging of their own talent."

In spite of the bleak tone of the conversation, Friedman insisted that he still believed in America.

"I am the biggest, raving American patriot there is. I am not a declinist," he said.

"My co-author [Michael Mandelbaum] and I — we are not pessimistic at all — we are frustrated. There's a big difference.

"We are frustrated because we believe in this country and its potential, and we are fighting so below our weight right now. I don't believe in the Beijing consensus for America or for anyone else. If it works for China and it gets China to a different place, God bless it.

"But we are so disconnected from the values and practices that got us where we are right now. We just had a terrible decade and it's going to take a while to dig out of this."

Reported by Ben Linden

I think Mr. Friedman is exaggerating What China has been doing. China is doing what America had done 5o years ago.
With respect to high tech, engineering innovation,etc, America
is still taking the lead globally, leaving China behind in dust.

Don't just look at Beijing or Shanghai but go around the entore country of China, especially those places fewer aliens
have been to. I would say most of the places in China still
remain undeveloped like Africa...

Mr.Friedman overestimates China way too much.

China has impressive economical successes, largely due to her totalian political system. Do we prefer to stay as a democratic nation at the expense of economical efficiency, or the orther way round?

How long would it take for the US to build the Hoover Dam today? What has changed in the US over the last 80-100 years that slows projects, innovation, growth? Why?

you shoud come to china before you said that chinese labors are forced labor. using your logic, i can say US soldiers are forced by their government to enter the war in iraq, afg,and lib.
it is certainly a challenge being pacific rim minded and seeing the supposed mentoring of youth from the engineering and management of bottom feeders who have no genuine interest in asia or many other places around the world removed from their own economics. there is plenty to learn from many places -- yet, some showcases have the most parochial, colonial outlook. thank you.
Dear Thomas Friedman Great Analogy about US and China and the way to grow but one thing you missed is Freedom and Democracy American has given to Iraqis or for Afghan People though they do no to hold it. Yes there is a setback for US it should be temporary phenomenon. Great Courage lied in George W Bush to remove one evil in Iraq and fight inhuman Taliban. If he had striked North Korea millions of Koreans would have worshipped him. Civilizations, Individuals rise and fall but democracy and dignity lives one day China may become Iraq or a Maoist Taliban State then what is the use of Devl with Dictatorship..... Thanks Chandrashekar M.A.M'PhiL/PhD Bannglaore India
As a foreigner who has been living in Beijing for almost two years now, I have been a witness to this amazing growth myself. It is indeed amazing and remarkable. Mr. Friedman is an American and therefore has an American point of view on how things should be managed. The Chinese operate completely differently and allow themselves to move forward full steam ahead, for many reasons: capital, authoritarian regime, the willingness of people to work hard, culture, education etc. America is not in a position to fight it. It needs to accept it and to see how it fits in a world that it is no longer number one. I have recently written several interesting articles about China and the world in my blog: www.laowaiblog.com I invite everyone to read and to comment Thank you!
As to Mr Orville Schell's comment about China's underbelly being her purported lack of anchor, I reckon - as an overseas Chinese - that the flux of 5000+ years of Chinese civilisation is that anchor. It is in the nameless. As a Singaporean, I agree with Mr Thomas Frieman's comment about the inversion of the innovation pyramid, as attributed to Curt Carlson's model: "Everything top down is dumb and slow; Everything bottom up is smart and chaotic." Unfortunately, Singapore's model is the former. To wit: http://theonlinecitizen.com/2011/01/breaking-news-pm-wants-toc-gazetted-as-political-association/ The Pariah, www.singaporeenbloc.blogspot.com
The madness+of your statements may not be masked by intelli-bable und even wholly grammatical statements do not necessarily valid arguments make.
TF's comments reflect the passion and drive so evident in China today which once characterized the USA - politically, economically, and socially. NEVER REST ON YOUR LAURELS An adage that was the mantra of the USA - until we learned of vulnerabilities and weaknesses during the 1970s Oil Crisis - which drastically changing our character. Should we go back to that era? Not necessarily. Should we impede China's drive forward? Not a chance. We must focus on mutual cooperation and understanding, joint efforts and partnerships, and realize that the world in the 21st Century will be shaped by the interactions of the US and Chinese people - regardless of where/how/when/which manner we meet. Let's make them positive and collaborative - not zero sum - and tie our development and success to each other.

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